Why Clinton Supporters Should Vote for McCain if Florida and Michigan Primaries Don’t Count
March 30, 2008 by morganwrites
(AWTS) - There is certainly something to say about party loyalty, but when that party does everything in its power to act incompetent, you start to lose faith in it. We’re at an important turning point in the selection process of the Democratic nominee for President, and the Democratic party has been useless in figuring out a solution to 2 problems that have been plaguing it for weeks now . . .
The Democratic party has penalized the voters of 2 states - Florida and Michigan - for issues revolving around timing of primaries. As we speak, the millions of voters in these two states have had their votes counted, but unfortunately, according to party rules, these votes just won’t count. With that in mind, we’re brought to the fundamental question: What is the reasonable thing to do, given that the nomination process is not yet over?
We’re going to focus on Florida, because it is quite clear that in Florida, both candidates were evenly matched, and there is no doubt that one side or another had any undue advantage.
If all things were fair, the party would suck it up and count the votes in Florida . . . neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama were allowed to campaign in these states, so they were at an equal disadvantage. Both were on the ballot. There is really only one reason not to count the votes, and that is that they benefit Hillary Clinton’s Campaign. Despite offers to fund a new primary, Florida has refused to allow
such an event to happen. Again, the only reason why you wouldn’t allow the primary to be redone is because it would benefit Senator Clinton.
If this is not clear to anyone in Florida, it is because their Cataracts are worsening.
Even though she won by a convincing number, Candidate Clinton has pushed to redo the primary, but can’t get the Obama Camp on board. Why wouldn’t he want to have a primary that counts if he is running to be the representative of all 50 states? The only reason not to do it is because he knows he is going to lose. The problem though, is that by skipping Florida, you disenfranchise the voters of that state. Their votes are now worthless, and by refusing to allow them to count, Barack Obama is saying that they are meaningless - I believe that he once called the Florida Primary a “beauty contest.”
So, what is a Democratic Floridian to do?
Well, if Florida is not counted, then this race is over. Obama will be the nominee, and he knows it.
If this happens, then every supporter of Hillary Clinton in Florida should vote for John McCain for President of the United States.
How could you support your party when your party and that party’s nominee refuses to think that your vote is worth anything? Barack Obama is picking and choosing who he wants to represent, and by doing so, he is telling the millions of people who don’t think that he should be the Democratic nominee that they are meaningless. He is selling out Florida like he sold out his “white racist grandmother” in order to win. Many people say that the Clintons are ruthless, and will do anything to win, but this is crazy. Obama has taken things to a whole new level!
With that in mind, if you are disenfranchised by the Democratic Party and by Senator Barack Obama, you should REFUSE to support him and vote for John McCain. Although he may be of a different political party, at least he thinks your vote is worth something. If you are disenfranchised by the Democratic Party and by Senator Barack Obama, then disenfranchise him back and turn him into just another failed politician with a little too much ambition . . . a footnote in the history books.
All supporters of Hillary Clinton should recognize the selfishness of Mr. Obama, and follow their colleagues and fellow Americans in Florida, and also refuse to support him as the Democratic nominee. If Obama disenfranchises Florida, we’re calling on a National boycott!
If Obama disenfranchises Florida, all Clinton supporters should stand behind their brethren in Florida and tell Barack Obama that he is not the President yet! They should support John McCain as President of the United States in the General Election and send Obama packing back to Illinois, where he can spend a little more time with his Anti-American pastor, who we now see, has had more than a little influence over the man.
Shame on you Barack Obama for allowing your ambition to blind you of how truly un-American you are!
There is really only one reason not to count the votes, and that is that they benefit Hillary Clinton’s Campaign.
No. The reason not to count those votes is because the party told Florida and Michigan that the delegates wouldn’t be seated if they went ahead with their unauthorized early primaries. That’s what the party said, and the party should stand by their word. Anything else can ONLY be because Clinton can’t win without changing the rules after the fact.
I support Obama, but I believe I’d feel the same way if I was a Clinton supporter. The party needs to stand by what it said–its word needs to be worth something, in other words–if it’s going to stand a chance in November.
Shame on you Barack Obama for allowing your ambition to blind you of how truly un-American you are!
This whole post is depressingly partisan Karl Rove Playbook stuff. You’re actually saying you’d be willing to have another four years of Bush-lite policies, just so you can threaten that against people who don’t support your chosen candidate? This is EXACTLY what’s wrong with politics, which is why I support Obama.
I agree people should do for their country, not the party.
Dan - Please reread the post and notice that I am not the author but there is a link to take you to the original. Here’s something you might like to do - get a transcript of every Obama speech and compare them to one another - I think you’ll find a bit of contradictory verbiage going on.
I agree with you 100% that there should be no ‘mulligans’ in politics - Florida and Michigan broke the rules - when you do that you should be ‘fined’ and the fine is not allowing the votes in either state contribute to any candidate.
Take care, and may the best man win.
Calvert - Right on. Yes, it is the country that should foremost, not the party.
Thanks for stopping by and thanks for the comment.
Florida democrats made a wrong political calculation when all but three of them supported Republican efforts to move the primary up in the schedule. It worked out for the Republicans in Florida as they had a hotly contested primary. It was simply a beauty contest for the Democrats with no campaigning. Obviously, the Clinton name will win over any other name if there is no campaigning. Clinton won the beauty contest. No question.
Michigan democrats controlled their own destiny as well. They made a political calculation that they would be more relevant if they moved their primary up next to the one in New Hampshire against the clearly stated Party rules. Michigan democrats lost their bet. Hillary was the only candidate without the strength of character to honor the rules by taking her name off the ballot. Hillary practiced that win by any means necessary mentality that governs her poltical thought process. Barack Obama, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Gov. Richardson and others simply showed more character when they removed their name from the ballot.
Is it any wonder that all of the other Democratic presidential candidates have endorsed Barack Obama already?
This week we see more character flaws … inability to tell the truth … and hypocrisy … flowing from Clinton and her campaign.
As for McCain … puh-lease!?! He voted against the King Holiday. That sez enough for me…
peace, Villager
Villager - The last I heard was that Edwards hadn’t endorsed anyone - but maybe I missed it.
As far a McCain voting against the King Holiday, yes this is true of the original 1979 voting, however he had a change of mind in 1983 and voted for it. For an excellent article on this subject: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/3/2456/27520.
Villager -
The post above is in error regarding McCain. I read the article too fast and misspoke.
Here’s what I meant to say,
‘In 1983, McCain voted against passing a bill to designate the third Monday of every January as a federal holiday in honor of King. Four years later, then-Arizona Governor Evan Mecham rescinded Martin Luther King Day as a state holiday, saying it had been established through an illegal executive order by his Democratic predecessor.
McCain said he thought Mecham was correct in his decision.
Two years after that, McCain’s viewpoint began to change, but only gradually. In 1989, he urged lawmakers to make Martin Luther King Jr. day a state holiday, but said he was “still opposed to another federal holiday.”
“I support the (Arizona) Martin Luther King holiday,” he added, “because of the enormous proportions this issue has taken on as far as the image of our state and our treatment towards not only blacks but all minorities.”
By 2000, McCain had come full circle. In an interview with ABC News during the Republican primary, he said he regretted voting against the 1983 bill. “Yes,” he stated, “It was a wrong vote.”
Why did he make that decision, he was later asked.
“We didn’t like outsiders coming in and telling us what to do, how we would conduct this effort to get the majority of Arizona to recognize Dr. Martin Luther King as a holiday,” McCain told ABC. “I worked very hard to achieve that recognition of Dr. King. And I did resent it when people parachuted in from other parts of the country to try and tell us what to do.”
To his credit, McCain has been repentant on his earlier MLK Day positions. In 2000, he went to the South Carolina, following his primary loss, and condemned the Confederate flag, something he declined to do during his run for office then. And, on a segment of Hardball taped in February 2000, he described what he deemed a political evolution on the issue of MLK Day.’
If you hold this against him, the so be it. Let’s then count all the mistakes that Obama and Hillary have made.
Peace to you as well.